No more L-numbers?

"I personally feel much happier housing captive bred fish than wild caught ones. I've killed animals to eat, so I don't think I'm being overly sentimental but I always feel a bit guilty having wild caught fish with no prospect of breeding them. I could afford one or two of my dream fish L046 but a breeding colony? No, so I leave the fish to people with the facility to breed them rather than a sad little zebra plec being a lone curiosity in one of my tanks. I do own wild caught fish but with slight unease. "

"One problem with L numbers is simply that due to the price tag they are generally purchased, as stated above, as lone curiosities. There's a few plec fanatics out there attempting to breed different species, but there really needs to be more!

If you can afford it, go for a group of one L number rather than stamp collecting different individuals, just on the offchance.

Any chance of the more attractive plecs being farmed over in Brazil? If wild caught plecs are banned then this must then become financially viable.."

"I believe the only hope that wild species have of surviving the onslaught of human intrusion on their habitat, whether collecting the species or destroying their habitat is to have viable breeding groups to be bred for the trade. Many years ago I was in the pet import business and imported parrots into the US, the death rate when we were lucky was 75%, glue was used to trap them on trees, now in the US most Psitacine birds are bred here, Scarlet, Blue and Gold, Military and Hyacinth macaws are no longer hunted in the wild making sure the wild stock can have a chance of reaching the numbers that are required for the diversity necessary for viable populations. The same holds true for fish, look at what we have done with the Discus, no one is interested in hunting or importing wild Discus since we breed them in large quantities, let's hope this holds true for the rest of our finny friends!!!!"

"The pet trade has become one of the greatest threats to wildlife world-wide. I have seen photos of poison-arrow frogs imported into Britain where most arrived dead, starving, and/or with pathetically broken limbs. Australian parrots are exported illegally crammed into cardboard tubes. Most die en route. Buying illegally imported creatures, whether fish or other animals, is clearly completely unethical.But could I suggest that even legally imported wild fish are often taken from third world countries with poor wildlife conservation policies, that they suffer in the process of being captured, held and exported, and that their mortality rate is extremely high. As an aquarist of some 40 years experience (including many spawnings, among them a "first" of glass catfish Kryptopterus bicirrhus ) I finally sickened of this situation, and am now the delighted carer of 8 healthy, friendly goldfish in a 4' tank. "

"I am a Brazilian exporter.
I work with allowed species and that they are in the Government's official list.
And talking about L - 46 and rays p13-p12 and other.

Ibama (fish department) he/she prohibits the fishing and export of these fish.
without proof of studies that really come to protect the species.

but in a more absurd way Ibama liberated an environmental permission for construction of two hidreletrias in the river Xingu.

the construction of these hydroelectric ones and dams will flood and to modify the atmosphere of these encourages and putting the species in extinction risk, mainly some varieties of Loricarideos that only happen in the close area the city of Altamira in the state of the Para
place from where 90% of the mentioned fish are fished.

To explore the resource in a maintainable rational way is not able to.

but to destroy and to finish the species can in exchange for more energy

IBAMA is not an environmental organ of protection and yes a position politicizes of maneuvers for the actual government.

Sorry for my poor english

Regards

Hudson"

"I also don't understand why they have banned export yet so much habitat and wildlife will be destroyed and lost forever. In a bizarre way should they be fishing every last fish out in the hope hobbiests zoos and public aquaria can try and breed them to sustain the species?"